People when an SF author who made fame and success writing Cold War military fiction in space turns out to be a right-wing asshole: :pika:

@mal @Zero_Democracy
starship troopers being the iconic example, sayin for posterity

@mirzaba @Zero_Democracy

How could you not read that and immediately understand that it's glorifying a hyper fascist society lmao

@mal @Zero_Democracy
cause ppl watch the movie first and assume the book is tongue in cheek? idk

@mirzaba @Zero_Democracy

Tbf, as great of a piece of satire as the movie is, I think it's also an excellent example of why satire is fundamentally not an effective tool, it just entertainins the people who agree with the point it's trying to make.

@mal @mirzaba I think it was a more effective cultural tactic in a bygone era, not so much now when everyone is enjoying everything "ironically" unless they aren't, and when the internet is a massive engine for systematically stripping everything of context.

@Zero_Democracy @mal @mirzaba when I was more of a lib, this is why I stopped watching "The Colbert Report." They did a poll of whether viewers thought it was satirical, and all of his right wing fans thought he was just comically expressing his real beliefs.

@activationfxn @mal @mirzaba “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.” From a story about the porous nature affected personae and how they interact with politics.


@Zero_Democracy @activationfxn @mal @mirzaba Leave it to Vonnegutt to more succinctly explain why the internet has pushed us past the Satire Singularity where satire is seemingly impossible after the internet, than I've tried in years. Wonder why that's one of the only Vonnegutt novels I've never read.

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Smeap is the honk of a flamingo. Smeap was also at least once, a storybook land at the weird intersection of TV ads and the worlds they seem to inhabit. It was a place where wars were fought over sodas, and talking polar bears had very good reasons to guard soda machines. It was a place where rainbow color candies were harvested for electric power. It was a place where a prairie dog might move to big city inhabited mostly by Pink Flamingos to follow her dream to be private investigator, only to get slowly entangled in the seedy underbelly of crime and prohibited soda trading of the Neon Flamingos and their syndicate. Social media at times lately feels like it has become almost entirely seedy underbelly with very little upside. Maybe it needs more storybook worlds.